[swelling synth string][ticking] – I’m MatPat… [ticking stops] And this is “Game Lab.”[static]
[typing, clicking]For the last five years,I’ve made a name for myselfoveranalyzing video gamesusing real-world
science and math,but now I’m taking it
to the next levelby throwing some of
the world’s most popular gamersinto the scenarios
we play through every day.Will the games
stack up to reality?And are gamers
as good in real lifeas they are on-screen?Welcome to “Game Lab.”[rock music]♪ ♪This is insane!♪ ♪We’re here
in downtown Los Angeles to learn about real-life
bomb defusal from the experts in order to explore the world of “Keep Talking
and Nobody Explodes.”Now, if you’ve never heard of
this game, I’m not surprised.It’s an indie game darlingthat appeared on the scene
July of last year.Produced by Steel Crate Games,“Keep Talking” was originally
created as a demofor the Oculus Rift,
with the whole idea beingthat someone wearing
a VR headsetcould play the same game
at the same timeas someone who
wasn’t wearing one.Basically, one person looks at
the bomb with no instructions,and the other has
a defusal manual.It’s a true test of how well
you know your partnerand how clearly
you can communicateto defuse what feels like
a real live bomb.Great. Done. Done![all cheering]So, as you can imagine, it takes a team
to defuse bombs. Lucky for me, I believe my squad
is arriving at any minute now.[rock music]♪ ♪Da–hey! Hey, Danny. How are you, man?
Good to see you. – What’s up? Doing great.
– Thanks for coming. – Matthew.
– Arin. – Aww. How are you doing?
– I’m doing well, thank you. – So good to see you, brother.
– It’s great seeing you too. – I was digging
the catwalk down there. – Thank you, man.
– That was nice. Laser, how are you, man?
– Let’s keep it professional. – All right, so you guys
seem primed to do this, right? – Oh, yeah.
– You know it. – You guys ready?
– Yeah, we’re super primed. – I’m so ready.
I can’t stand it. – Nervous? Nervous at all?
– Fantastic. – Fantastic. Well, good. Good, ’cause, gentlemen,
welcome to the cage. So–so many–okay.
So many high fives. We are in so much trouble.
This is so bad.[intense music]♪ ♪I’d like to introduce you
to Mark and Don, two bomb technicians with– how many years of experience
do you guys have? – 27.
– I–I guess the first question that we should probably
lead off with is: what is a bomb? – Basically, a bomb
is anything that’s built or designed to explode. – Okay. That’s pretty much
what we expected, I think. – Nailed it.
– Yeah, nailed it! Nailed it, guys.
– Great job. – We’re experts already.
We’re experts already. – Well, thanks for your time.
– [laughing] Yeah. – Has there ever been
a situation where you knew a bomb was going to explode,
so you took the opportunity to walk away from the building in slow motion
and put on sunglasses? – Yes.
[all laughing] – No.
– No. – On the record?
No. – No, okay, but
in all seriousness, then what does a typical day look
like as a bomb technician? – It really depends on
the calls that come in, what type of an explosion we’re
talking about with a bomb. A conventional type of a thing
is where something overcomes the structural integrity
of whatever it’s in, like a pipe bomb. All right?
A pipe bomb explodes because that rapid
expansion of gases– that’s what causes that
to detonate, and that’s what
is a big problem for us. – I work with Arin
on a daily basis, and he often has
a rapid expansion of gases. Could he be considered
a pipe bomb? [all laughing] – Well, maybe not
a hazardous device– – Oh, it’s hazardous. – You know what, Matt?
If you look in this bag, there’s different things
in this bag– – Whoa. I don’t know about the
“holding the bag” situation. – Let me just take
a quick step back. – You want to see the kind of
bombs that we work with? Check these out!
[all laughing] – Yeah? I’ll open up the–okay.
– Yeah, yeah. – That’s not a really
scientific way to– [explosion] – Oh, God! See? Damn it.
– Who did that? – Damn it! See, I knew it.
– [laughing] – Oh, shit. That’s scary.
– Look at this. – Whoa. – Wh–okay. All right.
– Okay. All right. Those are probably just candles.
– Right? And you were standing next
to it the whole time. – No, it’s just a warning pop.
– Yep. – Well, this is the real pop
that you would’ve got. – Yeah. Yeah.
– Okay. – And what would
a pop like that look like? I’m assuming this room
would be gone? – Whoever opened this bag
would’ve been gone, for sure. – This right here? – Yeah.
– Dynamite. – I really like that duffel bag.
– Oh, there you go. Okay. The light goes out
when you cover it. Yeah. – So that’s a light?
– It’s light-sensitive. – Wait, so there are bombs
that go off because of light? I thought it was attached
to me unzipping the bag, but, in actuality, it was
because I opened the bag to sunlight, and that’s
what caused it to go off? – Whoa.
– God, that’s just– – In movies, they have
a lot of, like– clip the red wire
or the blue wire. Is there any basis
in fact to that, or is that all Hollywood? – Nope.
– All Hollywood. Who cares what color
the insulation on a wire is? It’s what that wire can do
to the electronic circuitry. – How many bombs do you
think you’ve defused in your guys’ career so far? – Oh, I’ve probably done
a couple hundred. – Wow.
– Absolutely. – So I think–I think
a good question to kind of wrap up with then,
here, is, are you actually physically
going in by hand and– and defusing bombs? – We’re trained to do that.
– Mm-hmm. – Depends on the circumstance.
– Okay. All right, guys. Thank you
for this preliminary talk. – Of course.
– I don’t know about you, but I think it’s time
to go train. Shall we?[liquid splashing]– You guys ready to train? – Let’s do it.
– Absolutely. – Some of the most important
stuff that we use is– we use nonmetallic tools,
so if we were going to cut into that bag,
we wouldn’t want to cut into it with a knife that’s metal,
in case there was something that was designed so that when
metal goes into that, it completes a circuit–
– Uh-huh. – And fires
that circuit, right? This is as sharp
as any razor, and it–it has
no conductivity. – There’s other things,
when you talk about the different components
that may be involved in building these devices. There’s all kinds
of different switches– like, that’s a microswitch
that can fire your circuit. – When you think about the tools
that you use to build a circuit, – Mm-hmm.
– We use the same things to defeat
the electronic circuits. – But what’s the worst thing,
when you open up a device that you could see,
that you’d just go, “Ah, man. That’s the last thing
I wanted to see.” – The worst thing
that can happen is you won’t even see it
when you open it. – So one of the things that,
you know, is stereotypical with a lot of bombs that you see
in movies and games are timers. Right?
Is that movie magic? Are–I’m assuming that is something that
could trigger a bomb. – If we come up on a device
that has a timer on it, it’s a very, very serious
problem for us. If I’m a bad guy, and I set the
timer for 20 minutes, am I gonna set the timer
so that, when 20 minutes is up, that’s when this is gonna
initiate this? Or am I gonna set it so that,
when it hits 5 minutes, that device is gonna go off?
– Oh, dang. – So there’s a feeling–there’s
a false sense of security in looking at that timer
and thinking, “Okay, I’ve got this much time
to deal with this problem.” You can program that,
so that the timer can go off
when you want it to. – Yeah, nothing is absolute. – This is your problem. – Okay.
– So why don’t you– one of you guys tell me
what you think the best way to deal with this
as this being your problem now? – I mean, at what part
of the process would you recommend
freaking out and crying? – Any time.
– My first thought is to cut open the box,
but then that makes my first thought being–well, then,
that’s how it’s gonna detonate. – If–if they’re expecting you
to open it from the top, what if you opened it
from the bottom? – Yeah. Do it.
Open it from the bottom. You. – Danny Sexbang.
– Yeah. – You have “bang” in your name.
It’s fine. – That’s the name
of a man who qualifies. – I think it would help
if you stood right here– – It’s all gluey.
– Oh, it’s all gluey, dude. – Don’t worry about the gluey. – You seem fine, so I’m just
gonna hang out over here. Maybe just a little–
just over here. – Okay. – You doing okay? – Cool. Step one
has been completed. – You didn’t open it! – No, you’ve got to do it!
– I thought we were a team! – I brought you in
as guests for a reason. – All right. Go for it, Laser.
– I’ll do it. The actual box itself?
Oh, that’s much easier. I was trying
to cut the glue. Okay. We’ve got wires. – What do you see?
What do you see, Laser? – I see a green wire,
a red wire, and a white wire. – Do you see an energy device
or anything that, like– a battery, or something
that is going to be– – There’s definitely something
shiny towards this end. Something’s reflecting
light over there. – What would you do in order to
make sure that what you’re gonna do now isn’t going
to cause you a problem? That’s not going
to fire this thing? – You’re a game theorist.
What is that? What are we looking at? – Yeah, there’s a jimmy jam
in there, for sure. – It’s a widget.
– A jimmy jam. It looks like the switch
that Mark showed us earlier. It looks like the microswitch
is the green jimmy jam. I would call that a switch.
I would also… – Is that a classification? Jamjaroo? Is that–
– Yeah. Jim jamjaroo. Correct. – The shiny–
– That’s a technical term. – The shiny thing appears
to be a battery, based on where the connection
points are at the top. So now that I’ve–
now that I’ve discussed that, I’m going to hand it off
to my coworker here. – It’s like “Hot Potato,”
but, like, “Death Edition.” – So, at this point, we know
the components of the device. We know the trigger mechanism
is tied to the lid of the box and the switch that’s
underneath the lid. At this point, do we try to disconnect it
from the power source, or–how do we now
“defuse” the bomb, having kind of
assessed the situation? – We understand the circuit
that’s in there, right? We understand how it functions. The simple solution here–
knowing that we don’t have anything else that we
can see right now that’s gonna bite us–
is, we want to take the power source away
from what we’ve got. – Okay.
– Okay? – Should I do it?
– Yes. – Do it!
– Okay. – Failing.
– There we go. – Okay. Good. The light would
be our explosive, right? ‘Cause, obviously, if the
light had gone on– if you guys had just walked up
and pulled the flaps open, right, so the switch is in
the normally closed position. If you open the–like, if this
was somebody you were targeting, you know, where you wanted
to mail them a package, you mail them the package,
they pull the package open. Switch releases.
Fires the circuit, right? – So that’s your key
right there. So if you see a microswitch,
you’re like– that’s the thing that’s
going to change something. – Yep. – Okay. Arin. Laser. Danny.
What do you think? You guys feel equipped to handle
the situation yourselves? – Absolutely not. – Now it’s time to put everything that you learned
to the test. All right, guys, I think we’ve
got everyone all slicked up. They’re ready for business. – Gentlemen, welcome
to the challenge. – So you guys know, I talked with Mark and Don
prior to the episode to create a challenge for us
that’s going to test everything that we’ve
learned today. I personally actually don’t know
the specifics of what they have planned, so I’m
excited to hear from you guys. What do you have
in store for us? – We’ve broken you
into two teams. Team one will be
MatPat and Lasercorn. Team two will be
Danny and Arin. One of the team members
will be sealed in this vault. That’s the team member that’ll
be suited up in the bomb suit and actually working
on the device.The other team member
will be separated from them.When you guys are
communicating with each other,it’s absolutely critical
that you paint that picture, that you know exactly
what they’re talking about. Right? Tactical communication.
Not conversation. – These are real
bomb suits, yes? – That’s the bomb suit
right there. That’s about 90 pounds
of protection. – Does the suit come
in any other colors? – Yeah, it comes in red
when you make mistakes. – [laughing] Oh!
– Oh, my God. – Right. – Nothing–nothing
morbid about that. – That isn’t
a high-five-worthy line! – He did kind of burn me. – MatPat and Arin, you guys are suiting up
in the bomb suits. – On the table.
– All right. – Get rid of that TAC vest, and we’re gonna start getting
you in the bomb suit. – What, this isn’t
gonna protect me? – Not so much. – Actually, the first thing
that’s gonna go on is gonna be these. We call them diapers. – And just throw
this thing on here.♪ ♪– All zipped up.
– Okay. – How you feeling? – I feel like a chicken in, like, a pressure cooker
right now.♪ ♪– Then…
– Okay. – Release your helmet.
Lock you in. Okay? – Oh, oh, oh, there we go.
– Yeah! – Programming your defeat. – Okay, guys. Here’s the deal. You’re not only working
against the device, you’re working against
the other team. If the other team finishes
their device successfully first, your device blows up.[static]
[heart beating]– All right, buddy.
What do you see? – I’ve been presented
with a large metal suitcase. – Open the box.
– Opening the box now. – Okay, there’s a case
in front of you. Open it very gently.
– Opening. Okay. Oh, that’s as
gentle as it gets. – Yes, I am seeing four wires
on the left side of the box. It is so heavy.
– Okay, hold on a second. – Holy crap. This is scary. – Hey, Dan, maybe
speed it up a little. There’s a countdown. – Feel the edges for any
sign of trip wires. Over. – The hell is he talking about? – In other news,
I burped in my bomb helmet, and the scent
continues to linger. – Cease burping immediately.
Also, no other gases. – Why would I be feeling
around for trip wires if they are trip wires?
Over. – Lasercorn, just so you know, it looks like the top
panel here has hinges. – Okay, use a small instrument to gently lift
the metal faceplate. Over. – I got a small instrument
right here. [cringing] Okay. Okay.
[beeping starts] – Do not completely
remove the faceplate. Over. – Got it. Everything’s cool. Did not completely remove
the faceplate. Over! – Top of panel is opening. Looking for trip wires. – What is a trip wire? – I don’t know, it’s like
a wire, you know? Over. – I-I do see a trip wire. – Damn it. Okay. Now we got to defuse
a trip wire. – There’s a wire, and it’s
looped around another wire! Over!
– Stop yelling at me! Over. – Okay. Using a small tool, free the wire from the hook
or tack. Over. – This feels like “Operation.” There we go. Trip wire appears free.
Over. – Yeah. We’re totally cool.
No trip wires. Over. Ah, shit. I almost
fell over. Over, over. – Okay.
Locate the serial number. Over. – Okay, I’ve got
the serial number. It is 3-1-2-5. Over. – Does it have any stars on it? – It has three stars. Over. – Okay. Cut the third wire. – Hold on.
I’m getting a text from my mom. My mom says she loves you.
Over. – All right.
I cut the third wire. Over! – Okay. Is there, like, a cell
phone or something? Over. – There is a cell phone. Over. – Disconnect it.
Over. – Cell phone is out. – Okay.
Do you see the serial number? Over. – Serial number 4-2-1-5. There are two asterisks
under the serial number. – Okay. Cut the second wire.
Over. – Cutting the second wire.
Over. – Yes! Second wire is cut. Over.[losing power]Shoot. I’m losing energy
over here or something. Over. Serial number 4-2-1-5. – It has three stars. Over. – So the first two characters
of the serial number are the last two digits
of the deactivation code. – First two digits
of the serial number are the last two digits
of the s–of the code. Correct? – “The first digit–” [beeping] – “The third–”
Okay, the first digit of the detonation
code is two times the second-to-last digit
of the detonation code. – Read me the instructions
for the whole serial code. Over. – Okay. Now take the serial number and put it into the keypad.
Over. – 3-1-2-5.[electronics unlocking]Oh, I did it! [explosion] – Aah! Damn it. [groaning] No! No…
– Game over! – Game over!
– No! – Game over. – Yeah!
– Whoo! Me and you! You and me! Whoo! – What did we do wrong? What did we do wrong? – [humming]
– Whoo![typewriting][buzzing, dinging]♪ ♪[typewriting][dinging, buzzing]– Lasercorn, what happened?
– I don’t know, man! We had the code.
You cut the right wires. – Did I?
– The issue that you guys had here is that you’re
not only working against this, you’re working against them. – Wait a second–
– That’s right. And we’re the game grubs! Hey, what’s up?
What’s up? Hey, baby. – Speak of–speak of the devils. – I would give you a hug,
but, you know– – Did you–so you guys did
all the math and shit? – Yeah, what did you do?
– Yeah. – I mean, I didn’t do any. I just sat there
and pressed the button. – Yeah. We went into the phone,
and then I got a text from my mom,
and I answered that, and I told her I loved her,
and then we just clipped– – That was really nice.
She told me she loved me too. – Yeah, she loves you too.
– D-did you do the cell– the cell phone?
Disconnecting the cell phone? – We…figured it out.
– Uh-huh. – It’s fine. It just exploded.
It’s not–it’s not a big deal. – Yeah, it’s confetti.
It’s like a celebration, almost. – Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.
No big deal. I guess that’s it. We’re not cut out for the bomb
squad, there, Lasercorn. – At least you exploded
and not me. – Yeah. – That was super fun.
– I was just defusing a bomb. Yeah, that’s right! – Nothing good happened
to me today. – Had a really good time.
Learned a ton. – Once we got to the actual
defusing, it was a nightmare. – I have a whole new respect
for bomb squad people. They are way braver than I am.
– My teammate exploded. [explosion]
– Aah! – I had fun
with my friends today, and it was a really good time. Thank you for the interview. [all laughing] – The bomb maker
is the real villain here. He just…failed. – As if that was in question
to begin with. – Oh, God.
– There it is. – Oh, God,
that’s so much better. – Yes.
The more you know. So what did we learn today? I mean, first and foremost,
that bombs are incredibly scary. – Really scientific way to–
– Oh, God! – They can go off by light.
They can go off by sound. They can go off from trip wires. They can just go off
for timer reasons, even though the timer
might say one thing, and it actually goes off
at a different time. That is terrifying.You have to assess
the situation, and there’snever one consistent method
to solving these things. – No, cut the third wire, dude.
– Ah, shit. – It really depends on who
the person’s being targeted,and who the bomb maker was
in the first place.There is no go-to manual
to solve these things.[electronic tinkling]In the context of “Keep Talking
and Nobody Explodes,” we learned that communication
between two individuals,one who’s looking at the bomb
and one who isn’t,might not be the best solution,because they’re seeing
two different worlds.I might interpret
something one way,and Lasercorn,
or whoever my partner is, might interpret it
a different way. – Why would I be feeling
around for trip wires if they are trip wires?
Over. – Is it fun for a game?
Absolutely. It makes for a great
party experience. When your life’s
on the line, though? Maybe not so much. [explosion]
Ahh! And so, thank you so much
to Mark and Donand all the brave individuals
out there in the worldwho do this on a daily basis, and are facing these
inconsistent, you know, random devices that are just
out to cause mayhem. Bad guys, you suck. Stop sucking in life. We also learned that bomb suits
are really hot and heavy, and I am a hot
and sweaty mess as a result. – You look really good.
– Thank you. I would– – You look so good.
– I think you look even– – Oh–we got stuck.
– Oh, no! Our Velcros crossed. Don’t cross the Velcro.
– Can we cut? We got stuck. – No. This is beautiful.
– This is really–we messed up. – Hey, and you know what, guys?
Even though you blew me up, there’s no hard feelings. – “Don’t explode”?
– I think that would be nice. – Oh, yeah, as friends.
– As bros. all: One. Two. Three.
Don’t explode! – I’m watching the mating dance
of two giant turtles. [all laughing] – Oh, yeah. Let’s see
who drops first. – Okay.